Pokémon Wiki:Proposals/Archive 1

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Making Infobox References and Notes Self-contained

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

I propose that notes and references inside infoboxes should be self-contained. The reason why I propose this is so that references and notes elsewhere on pages aren't mixed with those in infoboxes, making the proposal akin to that of pages on Wikipedia that have footnotes in infoboxes. For example, Prussia. Ellis99 ^Volcanion 18:56, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Support

Support: I had that idea some time ago, so I'd support. Dominoes I guess? 23:25, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Support: I support the idea, as it will be able to help explain relevant information on the page rather than through using a reference every time, which I found myself occasionally using. 02:18, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Support: I give my support for this idea because it doesn't hurt to give it a shot.Kittystyler talk 15:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Create sections linking to Pokémon Shuffle Wiki on Pokémon pages

 This request, or proposal, was closed before it reached the right amount of supports or opposes. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
I support creating sections on Pokémon pages relating to Pokémon Shuffle to another wiki called "Pokémon Shuffle". The reason why is because it has a more in-depth grasp about the game that I feel we would have if we type up the info ourselves. I proposed a merger awhile ago (about two-three months ago) and they rejected it, but they approve about this. I feel that a partnership between our wiki and their is the best option for the time being until there is a another discussion in the near future about a merger again.

Neutral

Neutral: I think that the proposal is a good idea, as it will help expand information on Pokémon pertaining to side/spin-off games. However, I feel it would be a bit out-of-place to include just a section on Pokémon Shuffle at the moment instead of including other information for Pokémon in their other game appearances. We could merge with other wikis to fill in that information, though that could be a complicated process and there are multitude of other games that some Pokémon appear in that would require information. For now, I remain neutral on the matter. (talk) 16:59, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: Well, the links to the wiki would be under a section called "Spin-off games" on Pokémon pages. In a way, I support these types of games having their own wiki, as there is quite a bit of info on them, like GO and Masters (which I would back turning into its own wiki, if the suggestion were to appear), since these were or are currently being updated. As the users of the said wiki above turned down the offer to merge, I suggested that we interlink our wikis and revisit the suggestion of merging in a years times, to which they agreed. Ellis99 ^Diancie 09:21, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Adding LinkPreview

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
I propose that this wiki add "LinkPreview". LinkPreview is akin to that of something that is used on Wikipedia, whereby the reader of a page can hover over a link to see some of the content of another page, without clicking on it. I believe this is something that the wiki should adopt and an element that Bulbapedia hasn't adopted, making us one step closer to our goal.

Support

Support: I read about it in the Dev Wiki, and I found it okay. You have my support on this proposal. Saksham Mishra! (talk) 02:20, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Support: I use it on my personal JS, and find it quite helpful. I am in support of adding it to the Pokémon Wiki, however, I do have a concern. When a link to a certain page that does not contain an image is previewed, the preview contains an image in a different language (most likely Russian), saying "No Image". Aside from that, I'm good with the script. --TheHacktivist42^{talk  •  contribs}   03:37, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Support: I think this may be very helpful! I support this proposal. 04:37, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Support: I haven't used that yet, but judging by the respective page on the dev wiki, I think it would be good. Dominoes I guess? 07:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: @TheHackivist - I'll address the concern with Ursuul, to see what could be done about it. Ellis99 ^Diancie 07:59, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Reference Popups

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
I think this would be best applied to the wiki, instead of clicking on a reference that takes you to the bottom of the page, to then have to scroll back up the page. To see what I mean, please look at the references on this page on kpop wiki.

Support

Support: This seems like a nice feature that will definitely benefit the wiki. Dominoes I guess? 15:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Support: If it meant by pop-up reference, yes that will be an good idea for this wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wannøivér (talk • contribs)

Support: I agree with the idea if it will help this wiki. Kittystyler talk 10:47, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Neutral

Neutral: As I can't support my own proposal, I can only, strongly, recommend it. Ellis99 ^Diancie 11:31, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: I've just added a link for users to look at, so they know what I'm talking about. Ellis99 ^Diancie 15:58, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Deleting Certain Pages of Character Pokémon

 This request, or proposal, was closed before it reached the right amount of supports or opposes. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
I believe that character Pokémon pages of Pokémon that made a small appearance in an episode and didn't use a move should be deleted. For example, I've recently deleted pages on Gary's Pokémon that have only appeared on a computer screen.

Neutral

Neutral: As with my previous proposal, I can only, strongly, recommend it. Ellis99 ^Diancie 13:06, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Game Page Renames

 This request, or proposal, was closed before it reached the right amount of supports or opposes. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
I looked on the official English websites to see if they have the titles of games the same as we and other wiki's do, but they don't.

For example:

• Pokémon Red and Green Version → Pokémon Red Version and Pokémon Green Version
• Pokémon Black and White Version 2 → Pokémon Black Version 2 and Pokémon White Version 2
• Pokémon X and Y → Pokémon X and Pokémon Y

Here is a link to the game page [1].

Neutral

Neutral: Hmm... I think this should be a good move for accuracy, although my concern is that this may cause overcomplicated titles that may be inconvenient to type and search. So overall, it's a bit of a "maybe" with slight leaning to the support side. Dominoes I guess? 13:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: @Dominoes - Due the length of the games, I think the best way, so that it's easier to search them, would be rename some of the redirects. Ellis99 ^Diancie 14:07, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Merger of Pokémon Character Pages Without Moves Into Their Trainer's Page

 This request, or proposal, was closed before it reached the right amount of supports or opposes. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
I proposed this last year, but it wasn't voted on. The proposal means that biographies from pages such as Goh's Kakuna would be merged into its Trainer's page, with the current page converted into a redirect to the relevant section on the Trainer's page. This would only affect those without a moveset and those that only make one appearance.

Neutral

Neutral: As an admin, I remain neutral. Ellis99 ^Diancie 17:04, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Neutral: I don't see why this would be necessary. There would be no major difference. See my profile 22:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose: Better not, you'd make this site more like Bulb than have its own authenticity. Besides, how would you, using current template, keep the text on the trainer page? The tooltip is more used for a short description than the actual content.

If anything, it may be more worthwhile for promo content (animated trailers) to keep mention on game counterpart pages. Somewhat relevant to mention that. Energy X 23:55, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Comment

Comment: I don't propose the merger or conversion of pages such as Magearna, but of pages like Goh's Gossifleur. Ellis99 ^Diancie 16:14, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Implementing the "Ref" module

 This request, or proposal, was closed before it reached the right amount of supports or opposes. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
Last time I implemented this, the wiki somehow messed up, causing pages to load really slow. However, if approved, it won't be implemented until the issues relating to it are sorted. What I propose is the implementation of the "Ref" module. The "Ref" module is a module that creates a consistent references format that can allow for easier creation of references on pages. By creating data modules, references can have more information than current. For example, a reference to the first ever Pokémon, at the moment, only contains the episode link. Using the module's template, it would have the title, the link to the episode, the year it first aired, the series and season, and credits.

Here is a link to the Dev page, here.

Support

Support: This seems like a good way to go for this wiki. See my profile 17:33, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Support: Fine, go ahead. But do mind to somewhat mitigate that, as in you may not want to repeat the same content from which season it aired, when the character may only appear in one season. Energy X 10:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Support: I think it would be best for refs to include more thorough information on the episodes. PokémonGamer* 03:09, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose: The first rule sounds rather mean to me. User:Jenkins92 08:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Deleting "Masters" pages

 This request, or proposal, was closed before it reached the right amount of supports or opposes. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
As we have a partnership with the Pokémon Master Wiki that have more info that our wiki about the game, Our pages are neglected, due to lack of users editing these pages. If they were up-to-date, I'd still consider it, as the other wiki has more information and the bureaucrat of the wiki is against merging into our wiki. Currently, the "Variants" template links to the wiki's respective character pages, as a part of the deal between our wiki and theirs.

Support

Support: This is a great idea to clean up the wiki. See my profile 16:55, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Neutral

Neutral: As the proposer. Ellis99 ^Diancie 15:18, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose: It is not a good idea at all, nor ever was! Don't do that at all!!! See my profile 1:16, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: Maybe we could have the characters' main pages reference their Masters counterparts and then link to their respective pages on the Pokémon Masters Wiki? See my profile 16:55, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Comment: The "Variants" template is pretty self-explanatory, as it links to other variants across various media. Ellis99 ^Diancie 15:10, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Turning Very-little info and No Imaged Character Pokémon pages Into Redirects

 This request, or proposal, was closed before it reached the right amount of supports or opposes. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
Pages such as May's Latias and her Latios would be turned into redirects with relevant info moved to the Trainer's page.

Support

Support: Having pages with such little content is redundant. See my profile 16:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Neutral

Neutral: As the proposer. Ellis99 ^Diancie 15:23, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose: Oh my god, No! Don't do that at all!!! See my profile 16:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Subpages

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— SandyTree / Message Wall / Contributions
The content on this wiki can be overwhelming. Therefore I propose we create page tabs like this to divide up and move some content to subpages. This is to deal with the information overload, which is common practice on a lot of different wikis. From my first experience using this wiki, this will probably help readers and visitors find what they're looking for, and help new contributors get a better idea of what content needs to be added to the wiki.

Exactly how content should be divided up will still need to be discussed and drafted up before deciding anything final. An initial idea could be splitting up the content about a Pokémon into different generations. So for example Pikachu/Generation I to display information on Pikachu that was available in that generation, such as gen specific habitats and game info, which is already being done with the Tabber template. For example, I'm currently playing Scarlet and Violet and tried to look for information on Eevee's habitat in Paldea, but since information from all the different generations is mixed up on one page, it was hard to get an idea on what information related to this generation was available on the wiki, making the wiki hard to use for me both as a reader and wiki contributor.

I have experience with overhauling messy wikis as admin, so I know changing already existing articles will be a lot of work. Especially on such a big and old wiki like this. Therefore, to make this project more manageable, an idea could be to begin doing it to one part of the wiki first, before moving on to different parts. For example, beginning with one installation of the franchise such as Scarlet and Violet (Gen IX). Because this game hasn't been fully documented yet and seems to have several stubs, it should be easier to manage than trying to change existing content. Starting small like this should be doable even with a smaller team of active staff. Trying to change everything all at once on a wiki of this scale is impossible anyhow, but I don't think it should hinder us from trying to improve.

Support

Support: I'm glad that this has been spoken up about. If this goes ahead, I believe the Gameplay and Gallery elements should be kept separate from the main tab. For example: Popular Pokémon like Pikachu, Eevee and Ditto are pretty much available to play in every generation. The movesets of these Pokémon will especially grow large, particularly the former two; A separate tab for Gameplay will save a lot of space for the main tab thus making it quicker to load. Also, Pikachu's gallery (which has many photos) is literally crammed into a small box, meaning you have to scroll inside the box to see all the images. Ideally the whole gallery should be visible to the reader. Just throwing some basic ideas for consideration. Kettlon (T/C/A) 20:44, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Support: This is something I have never thought about before but now that you said it, it would make sense to introduce it. See my profile 22:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Support: I think this is a good idea, it should help keep pages more organised. I can't think of much to add that Kettlon hasn't already, but I wholeheartedly agree. Talking Gina (talk) 12:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Support: Yes, I give my support for this proposal. Kittystyler (talk) 12:00, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: After thinking over your proposal since Sunday, I'm slowly warming to most of your proposals. For the images of Pokémon, a separate is a good idea. Kettlon thinks along the same track I do in regards to the future, in this case images. If it were to happen, I think the best thing would be to categorise all images relating to a Pokémon. For example, [[:Category:Images of Bulbasaur]] would be created and the below would be added to the image page of said Pokémon:

<dpl>
  namespace = File
  category  = Images of Bulbasaur
  format    = <gallery widths="150" spacing="small">,%PAGE%\n,,</gallery>
</dpl>

Ellis99 ^Diancie 14:10, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Implementation of Message Walls

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— Kettlon / Message Wall / Contributions
Hello. This is currently our second attempt to propose a switch from User talk pages to Message Walls (The first one being listed here). Unlike the previous nomination, this proposal is coming from a user who's more familiar with and has had substantial experience with editing in the wikitext format. Here's some benefits as to why Message Walls are and will be a more reliable source of communication than talk pages, along with some perks that will help mitigate the downsides:

• Both users will be able to follow the same page at the same time. Right now one will only get the notification if it's on their message wall. Uninvolved users can also choose to follow and get notifications from other people's Walls, increasing chances of good-quality discussion from people with different skillsets.
• Messages are covered by a separate tab to posts under Special:UserProfileActivity/Kettlon, which makes it easier to distinguish wiki contributions (and discussion posts) from messages, and identify any messages that may fall foul of our guidelines. They will also appear on the Social Activity Log.
• We take in and learn a lot from images, whether it'd be diagrams, photos, and the like for our insight; and in the UCP format, users can add images to their discussion much more quickly and reliably than on talk pages. They can just upload the image from their file and after you submit it will appear. The wikitext way is much more complicated: Add the file's exact name into an internal link with the prefix File:, and upload the file with the exact text via the "Upload File" page, which declines if one forgets to set a license, before pressing save.
• Some users that regularly use discussion boards are also willing to help on the wiki-side if needed, for example to help with their userpages, or to add a Pokemon move's image into an article. With a little guidance from experienced users, this simplified way of communication should help these DB users to develop skills more quickly and thus the wiki can achieve more productive results.

Now, let's address some of the negatives:

• Articles cannot be linked: Well, I believe writing the name of the article, highlighting it and clicking on the link button works just as well.
• Inability to edit replies to add links: That can be mitigated by posting a new reply.
• Archived pages are no longer viewable via Message Walls: Well, they can be viewed by typing {{User talk:Kettlon}} and pressing preview, but yeah, that's otherwise a notable downside if we need a more reliable way to look at historic discussions.
• Templates don't work on Message Walls: No, but Message Walls' Greeting page is in the wikitext format, and templates can be made there. I think you can link archived talk pages as well, where they can be viewed, although what I don't know yet is if the bug is fixed or not.

Right now, our wiki activity is considerably low compared to our fellow competitors, and if you can support this proposal, this will be beneficial in the long run. Thanks for reading, and I hope I'll be able to achieve this change of perception for users that regularly monitor the wiki. Kettlon (T/C/A) 11:10, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Support

Support: Message walls are easier to use and are much more up-to-date than talk pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chatot04 (talk • contribs)

Support: It's the more streamlined and de facto primary method of user interaction and while I am fine with keeping talk pages, there are reasons it is far more preferable to use Message Walls, as Bulbapedia already uses talk pages, the interface of MWs is much cleaner, the conversation is in one place instead of back and forth, you don't have to worry about putting your messages at the bottom on an old topic to be seen, your name is at the top next to every post (no need for signatures, and therefore no need to worry about indenting signatures so that the paragraphs are aligned correctly), you don't get notifications every time someone has to fix a tiny error (e.g., red links, vandalism) and have to wonder whether that was a new message, and that said I still stand in strong support of keeping talk pages instead of comments for articles because Discussions and Discord can be used for General Discussions and we need to have a neat space to list comments that specifically only discuss article improvements. PokémonGamer* 18:10, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Support: I am in favor of this change. A Wiki I am a Social Admin on, the Dragon Ball Wiki, we updated to Message Walls a while back, and I can still access my old talk pages using this method, while my talk page archives I can access via direct link. In my experience, message walls help to keep communication simple and uncomplicated for new Users and old Users alike, due to the ease of keeping the discussion on a single thread without needing to add a signature. Fenn (Talk) September 11, 2023, 7:47 PM (EST)

Comments

Comment: If message walls get implemented, what will happen to the talk pages? Will they disappear forever? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chatot04 (talk • contribs)

@Ellis99 Thanks for fixing this, forgot to do it myself!

Nope. I believe they can still be accessed if you substitute it (i.e. {{subst:User talk:Kettlon}} or something like that) but it'll probably need to go on a wiki-space, for example a sandbox. Kettlon (T/C/A) 12:15, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Resubmitted Proposal - "Turning Character Pokémon Pages with Little Info Into Redirects"

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
I made a proposal a while back on whether, as the name of the states, these type of pages should become redirects. For example, May's Latias and her Latios would be turned into redirects with relevant info moved to the Trainer's page, such as the "Trainer's Pokémon" template.

Update: This will only affect pages of Pokémon that don't use moves, as a way to integrate those that do you move will be discussed at a later date.

Support

Support: I think this will be good for the helping to keep everything more organized and make the information easier to find for all users. A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall 13:24, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Support: If they're notable for just one scene (or a generally minor role in one episode) then we could redirect it to the appropriate section. Kettlon (T/C/A) 14:11, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Support: I don't get why we need pages for something with very little info. It seems pointless, which is why I support this redirect. See my profile 14:27, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose: I don't think I liked the idea. I just get the feeling in my head that seeing the character Pokémon's page anymore and leading me to an episode is frustrating. Sonic2479 9:27 AM, 12 October 2023

Comments

Comment: Pages, such as Wailord in RS034, will be turned into redirects, but only once the Pokémon pages have been split by Generation and by media, such as the Bulbasaur sandbox I created last weekend. Ellis99 ^Diancie 13:32, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Resubmitted Proposal - "Game Page Renames"

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
A proposal that closed before there were sufficient numbers of reject or support votes. "I looked on the official English websites to see if they have the titles of games the same as we and other wiki's do, but they don't.

For example:

• Pokémon Red and Blue Version → Pokémon Red Version and Pokémon Blue Version
• Pokémon Black and White Version 2 → Pokémon Black Version 2 and Pokémon White Version 2
• Pokémon X and Y → Pokémon X and Pokémon Y

Here is a link to the game page [2].

Update: HGSS will be styled like the other games of its Generation.

Support

Support:I don't see a problem with the change, might make it less confusing to some users A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall 16:32, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Support: Kettlon (T/C/A) 16:45, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Support: Absolutely. Makes things less confusing. See my profile 19:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Support: I don't see why not, it could help make things a little less confusing. Talking Gina (talk) 22:05, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Neutral

Neutral: Kind of have mixed feelings on this, as just saying like "X and Y" is shorter and simpler. Gematarix (talk) 19:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: So basically, the current pages would be split into two seperate pages? With each page having game specific information? A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall 16:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Comment: No, it's just a simple rename of existing pages. Ellis99 ^Diancie 16:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Comment: This would really just make pages longer and more complex, but I don't know. Pigs 19:26, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Comment: @PigsCantBeEaten - Game page names, like HeartGold and SoulSilver, are currently stylised using the long names from the official website, as the "DISPLAYTITLE" magic word is being used in the game infobox. Ellis99 ^Diancie 19:33, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Resubmitted Proposal - "Deleting Masters pages"

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was declined. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
A proposal that closed before there were sufficient numbers of reject or support votes. "As we have a partnership with the Pokémon Master Wiki that have more info that our wiki about the game, Our pages are neglected, due to lack of users editing these pages. If they were up-to-date, I'd still consider it, as the other wiki has more information and the bureaucrat of the wiki is against merging into our wiki. Currently, the "Variants" template links to the wiki's respective character pages, as a part of the deal between our wiki and theirs."

UPDATE: I think I should clarify that the pages I'm specifically talking about are ones with Masters counterpart/variant pages, like Cynthia (Masters).

Neutral

Neutral: I'm indifferent on the whole issue. I do know that the pages on the Masters EX wiki are more in-depth than the pages here though. See my profile 19:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Neutral: I'm also indifferent on the subject. Masters EX is not my area of expertise so i can't really do much to the pages here, but i don't think we should straight up delete them A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall 19:51, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose: I personally don't like the idea of enforcing users not to add Masters related content. Also, we could implement Masters EX related content under a separate page, whether in a section or under a separate title (e.g. =Pikachu (Masters)=, or under the ==Appearances== section). Kettlon (T/C/A) 17:39, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose: I personally will NEVER allow the Masters Characer pages to be deleted. EVER! Sonic2479 (T/C/A) 4:52, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Oppose: Certain wikis with overlapping coverage can coexist. For example, Nintendo Wiki has Pokémon among their scope, and both have been around on Fandom for a long time. Even single-series wikis like Mario Kart Racing Wiki do alright, even with MarioWiki existing. Gematarix (talk) 19:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: Ellis, do you have a link to the discussion with the wiki's admin (or the partnership)? Right now the Pokemon Masters Wiki has been very inactive as of late and my opinion would be to actually merge the activity from there onto this wiki instead (although that can be difficult). Also, how would we enforce such a change if we can't allow users on this wiki to edit about Masters if there are no links? Kettlon (T/C/A) 16:55, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Comment: Here's the first conversation I had with Getini. I say that enforcing users not to create articles in relation to Master won't be hard, as we don't get many users creating articles in relation to it, if at all. Ellis99 ^Diancie 17:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Comment: Would this include deleting pages relating to characters from Masters who have no other appearances such as Lear? Talking Gina (talk) 22:05, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Comment: Hmmm... good point. I suppose what could happen is that the page would have sections link to the page on Masters wiki. Ellis99 ^Diancie 22:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Disabling Blogs

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
This should've been proposed year ago when Discussions became a thing, but no-one did. Anyway, as Discussions has largely taken over from blogs, which have diminished in terms of engagement and as a form of conveying a subject to users. I have recommended a user who keeps creating blogs about walkthrough to help out at our partner wiki, but hasn't done so, with such work being put to better use improving wikis. Therefore, I think disabling blogs should be implemented. Old blogs won't be deleted, but the creation of them will.

Support

Support: I've only ever seen one user regularly make Blog posts and I've never seen a single one get any engagement. There is no reason to keep the creation of new Blogs enabled. A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall 19:50, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Support: Hardly any blogs get any attention, and most users have no idea they exist, so I would find no point in having them. PigsCantBeEaten | Message Wall 20:13, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Support: Who even uses the blogs on here anyway? See my profile 20:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Support: We have our userpage, can make sandboxes, comment on Message Walls and now we have the Editing Q&A Post, the latter of which app users can access. I think with all of these features now available that we can cope without needing blogs. Kettlon (T/C/A) 06:38, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Neutral

Neutral: I suppose the idea of discontinuing one feature over a similar isn't uncommon, but I don't feel strongly about one option or the other. Gematarix (talk) 19:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: This blog is an example why blogs should be disabled. Ellis99 ^Diancie 14:01, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Display First Edit

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— PigsCantBeEaten / Message Wall / Contributions
Hello, I would like to request the addition of the 'dev:FirstEditDate.js' Javascript add-on to MediaWiki:ImportJS. I believe that this is a harmless way to display first edits and show how old and long someone has been editing on the wiki.

Support

Support: I support this, as it'll be easier than going through a user's contributions page. Ellis99 ^Diancie 20:40, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Support: That would be very useful. See my profile 23:04, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Support: It is good to regularly test and incorporate interesting features. Yamakawa Akihiko 00:18, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Support: Sure, this sounds good. Gematarix (talk) 01:22, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Support: Sounds good to me A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall 02:01, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Partnership with Otherlands Wiki

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
A user from Otherlands wiki has proposed a partnership with our wiki. This wiki deals with Fakemon, which can be found here.

Support

Support: I see no problems with a partnership between the wiki's A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall

20:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Support: I believe a partnership would be beneficial, and I have written what a partnership would mean below in the Comments section PigsCantBeEaten | Message Wall 04:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support: I feel like a partnership would be a great idea. See my profile 07:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support: I see no reason to not partner with the mentioned wiki. TheHacktivist42^{wall  •  contribs}   17:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: As a bureaucrat, I'll refrain from voting. Ellis99 ^Diancie 15:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment: One does not simply ignore the cultural importance of this moment. The fulcrum that shall swing the outcome of this endeavor can only ever swing two ways: the ever-important 'Yay', or the dreaded, the foreboding, and the nightmarish 'Nay'. Or you could just choose the 'Meh' option, so I guess, seeing as there's three choices, you do you. But one must understand that there are Leslies, Pigs that cannot in any way, shape or form be eaten, and people who really like paint (among others) that are counting on your vote. Thus, I suggest that you vote. As a strange bearded man who was in Transformers once said, "Don't let your dreams be dreams." — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScorpionTail (talk • contribs)

Comment: What does a partnership between the two wiki's entail exactly? I'm not opposed to the idea, I just want to understand what i'm voting about before I vote. A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall 18:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment: Hello everyone, I am PigsCantBeEaten, Admin and Bureaucrat over on the Otherlands Wiki. To start, the Otherlands Wiki is a Fakemon "Continent" if you will with multiple regions run by different people. Everyone is welcome to collaborate, share ideas or even make and contribute their own region. Lore behind our continent involves two large areas of mass, the Mainlands (The official 16 regions) and the Otherlands (our 12+ regions). They split many years ago by a cataclysmic event, making the Otherlands drift off into the unknown. The only records of communication of the 2 continents are the International Pokédexes, copies scattered across the regions. To be in possession of one is a rare ordeal. With 625+ pages and 6250+ edits, our little wiki has grown a lot.

For those who may be confused on what the purpose of the partnership may be, I proposed the idea to Ellis a few days ago, where it became a request earlier today. First of all, our wiki could use a larger knowledge base on the editing side. We do have the hang of things, but there is lots I and we all would like to learn. For example, I have been thinking of setting up a bot account to help with mass edits but it is very confusing. Secondly, the Pokémon Wiki can acknowledge the efforts and creativity of the Otherlands community without necessarily incorporating their fakemon content. This recognition could involve periodic features or spotlights on notable fan projects, including the Otherlands Wiki, showcasing the diverse ways in which fans contribute to the Pokémon community, such as the construction of a page such as "Pokémon's Influence in Creativity", which I could help establish. This page could link to our wiki, or feature fakemon artworks from users on this or our wiki. Thirdly, the Otherlands Wiki may organize events, challenges, or competitions related to fakemon creation. The Pokémon Wiki could participate in or promote these events, encouraging its community to explore and engage with fan-created content, fostering a sense of community spirit. Fourthly, we have recently been linking pages of existing Pokémon topics to here. It has been saving us the hassle of creating the page ourselves and has been subtly promoting this wiki too. We plan on continuing this.

Hopefully, this has cleared things up for people who have been confused, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask on my Message Wall. PigsCantBeEaten | Message Wall 20:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment: I am technically a part of that wiki although not active on there and I think it'd be a great idea! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MothCat11 (talk • contribs)

Manual of Style - Pokémon's pronouns

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— Chatot04 / Message Wall / Contributions
I propose adding a new section on the Manual of Style regarding which pronouns are used to refer to Pokémon on pages. I strongly feel that this wiki should follow the same rules canon uses. Entire Pokémon species (even if they are all male or all female) and individual Pokémon of unknown gender are it/its, while individual Pokémon with a known gender are he/him or she/her. The reason why I am bringing this up is because I have had to correct multiple instances of pages calling entire all-male species he/him and all-female species she/her as if they were individual characters. See my profile 02:29, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Support

Support: Fine by me A͛r͛c͛a͛n͛e͛ ͛L͛i͛g͛h͛t͛n͛i͛n͛g͛ | Message Wall 04:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Support: +1 -TheHacktivist42^{wall  •  contribs}   15:32, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Support: I'm fine with this, it makes the site more accurate after all. Talking Gina (talk) 23:42, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Support: Sounds good PigsCantBeEaten | Message Wall 07:25, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: My only question is (and I guess it counts for any media) that if the Japanese version lists a Pokemon as a separate pronoun to the English version then which one should be used for all cases? I believe we should mention both of them in references and either use gender-neutral pronouns, or prioritise the language (e.g. the English version, as this is the English-speaking fandom) the 'main' pronoun is used in. Kettlon (T/C/A) 05:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Comment: I don't know Japanese so unfortunately I cannot give you a definite answer. However, given the fact that this is an English-language wiki, we could use the English pronouns on the main page and then mention the alternate Japanese pronouns in the trivia section. But again, this is not a concrete answer so I would like to hear input from other users. See my profile 06:09, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Splitting Leaf From Green

 This request for user rights, or proposal, was approved. 

— Ellis99 / Message Wall / Contributions
As the character hasn't been confirmed to be the same as Green, it would seem best to split the info relating to Leaf into its own page.

Support

Support: They're different iterations of the same character. Gematarix (talk) 16:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Support: At first I was indifferent about it, but when I sat down and thought about it, I think we should. I mean, the main game protagonists and their manga counterparts (such as Lucas and Hareta) are already separate pages, so why not? See my profile 01:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Support: Seems like a good idea. Kettlon (T/C/A) 03:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Neutral

Neutral: I don't know. Sonic2479 (talk) 12:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Neutral: I honestly don't know. I always thought they were the same character given that they look very similar and are from the same region, but I can't be certain. I think we should at least call the page Leaf though as that's what she's called in every other game. Talking Gina (talk) 03:56, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

Oppose: I disagree. Whitehorse24 (talk) 15:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Simply saying that you reject the proposal without providing a reason goes against the whole spirit of voting. Please keep this in mind and vote responsibly. -- Piyush. 09:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC)