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| + | If you haven't noticed, these boxes we use for images of moves stack up on one another and they is organized. Not only that, the size of the box changes due to certain images, but sometimes it looks crazy. So I propose that we create a gallery subpage for a move, this way we can seperate the images properly and have a consistent space. Plenty of wikis have gallery subpages for things. I'm mostly focusing on move pages, but other pages can be used too. An example of how a move gallery subpage would look would be like [[User:Rachin123/Energy Ball Gallery|Energy Ball Gallery]]. Aside from the games, we don't have to use one image per generation (region) in the anime and manga. While we know some moves differ in appearance in serieses, Pokémon also use moves differently. This is a good way to list all of the Pokémon in the anime and manga to know a move, just as we list what Pokémon can learn the move. Loading time won't be much of an issue really due to the page mainly containing images and not a bunch of data and images. Plus we have a category like [[:Category:Generation I Pokémon|this]] loads perfectly fine with over 150 images on it. I doubt we'd even have that many galleries that reach 100 images anyway. Those are just rare cases. |
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| − | After further observation, I noticed how unformatted the gallery boxes we use now are. When there are multiple boxes, they pile up on one another like [[Roar of Time#Gallery|so]]. I don't like how compressed the images looks in the box. So I thought we could create gallery subpages for moves. This is a common thing used on wikis anyway. This way we can list all of the Pokémon shown using the move, instead of just six and have plenty of space. We would name the subpages as (Move)/(Anime, Manga or Game) Gallery. A more direct example would be [[User:Rachin123/Anime Gallery|Energy Ball/Anime Gallery]]. The subpage will be listed in a "See also" section. |
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{{Support}} As the one who suggested it. --[[User:Rachin123|Rai 水]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 16:36, August 24, 2016 (UTC) |
{{Support}} As the one who suggested it. --[[User:Rachin123|Rai 水]] ([[User talk:Rachin123|talk]]) 16:36, August 24, 2016 (UTC) |
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{{Support}} it's a good change. [[User:Slayingthehalcyon|Ελισάβετ]]<sup>([[User talk:Slayingthehalcyon|talk]])</sup><sub>([[w:c:elisavetera|εποχή]])</sub> 17:04, August 24, 2016 (UTC) |
{{Support}} it's a good change. [[User:Slayingthehalcyon|Ελισάβετ]]<sup>([[User talk:Slayingthehalcyon|talk]])</sup><sub>([[w:c:elisavetera|εποχή]])</sub> 17:04, August 24, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Support}} --[[User:Annabeth and Percy|<span style="color:Purple;font-family:Arial Black;">Annabeth and Percy</span>]][[User talk:Annabeth and Percy|<span style="color:DarkViolet;font-family:Arial">~They say you gotta take the good with the bad. I'll take it all as long as I have you.</span>]] 17:08, August 24, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Support}} I actually love the idea of gallery subpages being added. It should be done. [[User:Mewtwoclone|Mewtwoclone]] ([[User talk:Mewtwoclone|talk]]) 02:45, August 28, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Support}} Sure thing, I think it's a nice change. [[User:Felix Vašečka|Felix Vašečka]] ([[User talk:Felix Vašečka|talk]]) 17:34, August 28, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Neutral}} I have to go with being neutral with this one. I think it will be a good idea to showcase the moves but at the other hand, galleries are going to have too many images of moves that are used many times in the anime (like [[Hyper Beam]] for example). That was why the galleries were removed in the first place from the pages some time ago. So I am not sure to either support or oppose this.--[[User:Lordranged7|Lordranged7]] ([[User talk:Lordranged7|talk]]) 18:28, August 24, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Neutral}} Well, sure. I don't see why not. It's much better this way.--[[User:Jokeman20|Jokeman20]] ([[User talk:Jokeman20|talk]]) 19:54, August 24, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Neutral}} Even though I have seen galleries like this being used at several other wiki's, I am not really sure if this should be added. I feel it might be a bit too much. [[User:Misch60|Misch60]] ([[User talk:Misch60|talk]]) 20:35, August 26, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Neutral}} It sounds like a good idea , boxes are terrible, but im afraid that it might cause slower net to have problems. Anyway i lean more to positive than to negative.[[User:Tom-RagingEevee|Tom-RagingEevee]] ([[User talk:Tom-RagingEevee|talk]]) 18:10, August 28, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Neutral}} I have many differing opinions on this. One on hand, I see where Rachin comes from and on the other, I see where X comes from. <span style="background:darkred">'''[[User:Ellis99|<font color="paleturquoise">Ellis99</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ellis99|<font color="sandybrown"><sup>Volcanion</sup></font>]]'''</span> 11:05, September 2, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Oppose}} We never have done this. It is just a lazy way to add tons of images onto one article. Besides, there are times where there is just one image of a move used in the anime and times when it is used too much. And then there are also the times when the scene used is just copy-pasted for Pokémon belonging to other characters. You also need to know about the time to load articles. Slaying and his friend did change infoboxes, one of the reasons to [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Energy_X#Templates_RE:_to_bunnies_TP reduce loading page time]. We already scrapped out such galleries before and used those templates, to show how the image changed from one generation to the other. As said before, it is not much of a big deal; if it must, the images of main characters' (plus some related ones, like anime/manga counterparts) Pokémon can be added in a different gallery. And even if it is placed into the new page, how will it affect the reader? I do not think such a drastic change is welcome. And once this starts, I fear more pages will be affected by this "transition". In a few words, this gallery business is highly unprofessional. '''<span style="background:purple">[[User:Energy X|Energy]] ''[[User talk:Energy X|X]]''</span>''' 22:20, August 24, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Oppose}} Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Energy. Not only is it a lazier way to add images but this is more likely to make the wiki rather unprofessional than helpful. Mrs.red bird #1 girl in the world! 23:34, August 25, 2016 (UTC) |
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| + | {{Oppose}} I agree with what X says. There aren't man images on articles anyways. [[User:Utkar22|Utkar]][[User talk:Utkar22|22]] 17:23, August 28, 2016 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 11:05, 2 September 2016
Forums: Index → Watercooler → Should Gallery Subpages Be Added?
If you haven't noticed, these boxes we use for images of moves stack up on one another and they is organized. Not only that, the size of the box changes due to certain images, but sometimes it looks crazy. So I propose that we create a gallery subpage for a move, this way we can seperate the images properly and have a consistent space. Plenty of wikis have gallery subpages for things. I'm mostly focusing on move pages, but other pages can be used too. An example of how a move gallery subpage would look would be like Energy Ball Gallery. Aside from the games, we don't have to use one image per generation (region) in the anime and manga. While we know some moves differ in appearance in serieses, Pokémon also use moves differently. This is a good way to list all of the Pokémon in the anime and manga to know a move, just as we list what Pokémon can learn the move. Loading time won't be much of an issue really due to the page mainly containing images and not a bunch of data and images. Plus we have a category like this loads perfectly fine with over 150 images on it. I doubt we'd even have that many galleries that reach 100 images anyway. Those are just rare cases.
Support
Support: As the one who suggested it. --Rai 水 (talk) 16:36, August 24, 2016 (UTC)- Support: it's a good change. Ελισάβετ(talk)(εποχή) 17:04, August 24, 2016 (UTC)
- Support: --Annabeth and Percy~They say you gotta take the good with the bad. I'll take it all as long as I have you. 17:08, August 24, 2016 (UTC)
Support: I actually love the idea of gallery subpages being added. It should be done. Mewtwoclone (talk) 02:45, August 28, 2016 (UTC)- Support: Sure thing, I think it's a nice change. Felix Vašečka (talk) 17:34, August 28, 2016 (UTC)
Neutral
- Neutral: I have to go with being neutral with this one. I think it will be a good idea to showcase the moves but at the other hand, galleries are going to have too many images of moves that are used many times in the anime (like Hyper Beam for example). That was why the galleries were removed in the first place from the pages some time ago. So I am not sure to either support or oppose this.--Lordranged7 (talk) 18:28, August 24, 2016 (UTC)
- Neutral: Well, sure. I don't see why not. It's much better this way.--Jokeman20 (talk) 19:54, August 24, 2016 (UTC)
- Neutral: Even though I have seen galleries like this being used at several other wiki's, I am not really sure if this should be added. I feel it might be a bit too much. Misch60 (talk) 20:35, August 26, 2016 (UTC)
- Neutral: It sounds like a good idea , boxes are terrible, but im afraid that it might cause slower net to have problems. Anyway i lean more to positive than to negative.Tom-RagingEevee (talk) 18:10, August 28, 2016 (UTC)
- Neutral: I have many differing opinions on this. One on hand, I see where Rachin comes from and on the other, I see where X comes from. Ellis99 Volcanion 11:05, September 2, 2016 (UTC)
Oppose
- Oppose: We never have done this. It is just a lazy way to add tons of images onto one article. Besides, there are times where there is just one image of a move used in the anime and times when it is used too much. And then there are also the times when the scene used is just copy-pasted for Pokémon belonging to other characters. You also need to know about the time to load articles. Slaying and his friend did change infoboxes, one of the reasons to reduce loading page time. We already scrapped out such galleries before and used those templates, to show how the image changed from one generation to the other. As said before, it is not much of a big deal; if it must, the images of main characters' (plus some related ones, like anime/manga counterparts) Pokémon can be added in a different gallery. And even if it is placed into the new page, how will it affect the reader? I do not think such a drastic change is welcome. And once this starts, I fear more pages will be affected by this "transition". In a few words, this gallery business is highly unprofessional. Energy X 22:20, August 24, 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose: Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Energy. Not only is it a lazier way to add images but this is more likely to make the wiki rather unprofessional than helpful. Mrs.red bird #1 girl in the world! 23:34, August 25, 2016 (UTC)