Forum:Curse

I have contacted Curse about moving off of Wikia and onto their hosting site. Normally, Curse only hosts gaming wikis, such as World of Warcraft, Minecraft, Terraria Wiki, and Skyrim. When I contacted them, they had mentioned that they have their own Pokémon site Marriland. If we were to go through with this, we would be added onto the marriland domain and we'd become the wiki associated with Marriland. There are forums, the Pokémon site, and Oekaki. Much like pokemon.marriland, we'd be wiki.marriland. Curse will support the anime, the card game, and the manga, not just the games.

Personally, I feel this would be the best move for the wiki. We're supposed to be a Pokémon Encyclopedia, not a social networking site. With this PlayQuiz thing, Chat, Badges and blogs (which we've disabled), top 10 lists, and message wall we're becoming a social networking site, not an encyclopedia. When I signed up for Wikia, I signed up to help form content, if I thought it'd be another social networking site in two years, I wouldn't have made my account.

Basically, what I'm say is this is going to be a very big decision to make. I do not expect voting to happen any time soon, I'm hoping we'll talk to the Curse staff in a skype group or something before we even start the voting. We need to have quite a large discussion first before we even think about voting.

There are some things to consider, if we move, we'll have two Pokémon Wikis to compete against. It might be hard for us to build up a community, but it'll be easy since Marriland has a community. I don't think this will have a negative impact, I feel it will have a highly positive impact. Jazzi 00:06, June 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * If this is becoming more like a social networking site, then the answer is simple: try to cut out what you think is unencyclopediac, if you can. I mean, all of these features can easily be disabled.  The only question is who you want to leave in charge (since not everyone is going with you) when you move.  And I'm certainly not doing it, because I have wikis that I myself am admin of.  --Thenewguy34( Other) 00:28, June 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * The point is Wikia is straying to far from what an encyclopedia is. And no, these features cannot easily be disabled. PlayQuiz can only be viewed by staff. And what we need disabled is already disabled, with the exception of chat. And it'll be discussed among the admins who will become an admin when we move. I'm not just an admin here, I'm an admin in multiple other places, I still plan on editing on those wikis. But those are wikis that are firm in the stance of not moving and/or cannot move to curse. And do you think we haven't tried cutting out what is turning us into a social networking site, we have badges disabled, as well as blogs. We opted out of enabling Message Wall, and I'm surprised Chat is still enabled. Jazzi  00:35, June 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Facebook. Let's be friends! 8-] Moving off Wikia sounds nice; it gives us a chance to clean up articles (not to be... rude, but some of the content here don't even make sense), create a better template structure - make a fresh start in general. But one thing that was mentioned above is that we'll definitely have competition. Plus, there's going to be a lot of work putting up articles, from the hundreds of items and Pokémon to locations and characters. But hey, that's not a problem if we take it step by step, working on one part. As for the current state of Wikia, the social networking Wikia is trying to implement concerns me. I wouldn't be surprised if they added friends list. Currently, my input about moving off Wikia would be around 60% for the move. And a similar topic was brought up about moving away from Wikia last year. Lots of good points Jazzi brought up on it. But hey, what's in the past stays in the past; any new points to bring up, I'm all ears/eyes.


 * As I mentioned with Jazzi beforehand, at the moment I do agree with this move to Curse. Wikia's recent developments have gone too far with this recent PlayQuiz. I mean, it starts with doing the little things without a proper consensus, and then suddenly, we are forced to accept the most ridiculous changes, but this isn't a rant on how much Wikia fails. If we do make our move to Curse, which most likely will be favorable, I do wonder what cosmetic or technical changes the wiki will undergo. I also do hope, as Bermuda mentioned above about a fresh start, in my opinion that would be ideal. It would allow us to build up article standards and yes allow us to organize our content well while making remaking it. &mdash; Wattz  2000  02:05, June 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * As for rights, the content would still be under the CC-BY-SA Creative Commons license just like at Wikia, and managed by you and your admins. And we think it would be best for it to be hosted be under the Marriland domain, as this would help bring new users to the wiki thanks to its thriving Pokemon community.

As for the skin, Curse currently supports only Vector. You'll be free to edit the CSS and JS files, and we can help you customize the wiki's looks if needed.

As for covering the card game, anime etc, while Curse generally focuses on video games, we certainly don't mind the wiki covering the rest of the Pokemon franchise as well.
 * Jazzi 02:20, June 12, 2012 (UTC)